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Re: Mod Application [Two TM positions opened]

Post  Maygirl2 on 4/10/2012, 6:30 am

Djmichael1 wrote:Can we lessen the number of characters for the preferences? 250... is just too many. What if we don't know the user who asked for a preference that well? We can't just make up reasons why they'd want to be staff. You have to write what you've observed and know. I think a minimum of 200 characters would be reasonable. And the mod form is way too strict... for a small community like this.

The reason it's strict is because I don't want everyone to be a mod - applications would just be too easy. You don't have to have 3 preferences, though it does help. The 250 limit is there to make it simpler for me to understand if you actually are speaking truthfully or not. I don't count them word for word and if you have just a little but less than 250 I really won't care. Just as long as the preference is easily comprehensible and flows - I'm okay with it. It just has to make sense and have a certain worth behind it.

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Post  Ccpenguin8 on 4/10/2012, 7:52 pm

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Djmichael1 wrote:Can we lessen the number of characters for the preferences? 250... is just too many. What if we don't know the user who asked for a preference that well? We can't just make up reasons why they'd want to be staff. You have to write what you've observed and know. I think a minimum of 200 characters would be reasonable. And the mod form is way too strict... for a small community like this.

The reason it's strict is because I don't want everyone to be a mod - applications would just be too easy. You don't have to have 3 preferences, though it does help. The 250 limit is there to make it simpler for me to understand if you actually are speaking truthfully or not. I don't count them word for word and if you have just a little but less than 250 I really won't care. Just as long as the preference is easily comprehensible and flows - I'm okay with it. It just has to make sense and have a certain worth behind it.

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Yes. If you don't know the person, then you shouldn't post a preference, to be honest. Although this is a small community, it's essential to have a reasonable staff.

As Maygirl says, it doesn't matter if it's slightly under 250. Everything is considered with an open mind, I can assure you of that.

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Post  Gotchee on 4/10/2012, 8:03 pm

So, when are the new T.M going to be selected?

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Post  Ccpenguin8 on 4/10/2012, 8:22 pm

Gotchee wrote:So, when are the new T.M going to be selected?

Please be patient, and the sucessful candidate(s) will be appointed soon. I imagine it will happen in a few days - a week and a half maximum.

First, Maygirl reviews the applications once all of them have been sent in (as far as I'm aware, she's still doing that), then if it is good enough, it will normally be put forward to a private staff vote, where the new TMs are decided. It takes a while, because selecting a new moderator is a very serious thing; we just want to ensure that the new staff members are of a reasonable standard, meet the requirements and will do a good job in moderating this forum.

The candidates will be informed of their status (accepted or rejected) shortly, so please bear with us, just a little longer. Thanks. Smile

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Post  Arctic DJ on 4/10/2012, 9:18 pm

Wow, this is intense. Three of you applied - one of you gets the privilege. Very Happy
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Post  Ccpenguin8 on 4/10/2012, 9:22 pm

Djmichael1 wrote:Wow, this is intense. Three of you applied - one of you gets the privilege. Very Happy

To be honest, I'm not quite sure how many people have applied - we're still in the stage of Maygirl privately reviewing the applications; the staff don't know the exact details yet.

As for the number of positions, two Trainee Moderators are being hired. Wink

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Post  Medicinal on 10/10/2012, 12:44 am

That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.
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Re: Mod Application [Two TM positions opened]

Post  Arctic DJ on 10/10/2012, 6:17 pm

Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

Yeah, the way TCPCF does it is wise. Like I said before, the app is a little extreme...
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Post  Sindar Toffe on 10/10/2012, 6:46 pm

Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

The Application Process is implemented on many forums I've been on. Also, the Staff do discuss potential new TM's.

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Post  Gotchee on 10/10/2012, 8:06 pm

Well, applications are useful, because :

1) The administrators can see your general writing skill.
2) Some people may have the qualities to be a mod, but they may not want to be one, for whatever reason. If you make an application, its pretty clear you wanna be a mod.
3) The application system doesn't mean that the staff don't discuss the "candidates" .


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Post  Ccpenguin8 on 10/10/2012, 9:38 pm

Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

In my opinion, the applications are the best system BY FAR. Not only does it allow members to inform us of their interest in becoming moderators, it allows us, as the staff, to sample their grammar, and consider whether they have the skills we're looking for, based upon the points listed in their application. Yes, the staff often have discussions about candidates, and yes, sometimes candidates are dismissed almost instantly. But that doesn't mean we hold "supreme power". It is important that members have their say about why they would be good mods - you don't get a job in real life without sending in your CV, or going to an interview.

At the end of the day, this system is the easiest, and most efficient system for us, and it gets the job done. That's what matters, and that's why we use it.

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Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

Yeah, the way TCPCF does it is wise. Like I said before, the app is a little extreme...

See above. It's extreme because we need to ensure that candidates have the skills, qualities and "flair" we're looking for. It's no use having a good moderator, that screams at the staff in the MDF.

Although TCPCF staff and TNCPCP staff try to maintain a good, friendly and professional working relationship to collaborate on interforum moderation issues when we occassionally have 'clashes', that doesn't mean we have to mimic them. Wink

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Post  Lewleworange on 10/10/2012, 10:05 pm

Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

I'm agreeing. Same thing as well, I was trying to an Application but it's to hard. If the Moderators/Admins really knew us considering we've been on the original forum since 2010/2011. Why should we have to apply when everyone here knows...well, everyone?
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Post  Ccpenguin8 on 11/10/2012, 11:18 am

Lewleworange wrote:
Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

I'm agreeing. Same thing as well, I was trying to an Application but it's to hard. If the Moderators/Admins really knew us considering we've been on the original forum since 2010/2011. Why should we have to apply when everyone here knows...well, everyone?

Well, as for you, Lewleworange, I believe you were supposed to have been IP banned (which I have just done now). So I doubt you'll be applying any time soon.

On the issue of why we use the system, please see above. It is NOT too hard - if it was, I wouldn't have been able to apply back when I was still a candidate for a staff position. It is an accurate measure of your experience, skills, reputation (preferences), grammar and it generally helps the staff decide. We don't 'know' anyone; there are plenty of members here who behave completely differently than on CPCP.

If you wish to debate the operation of this forum, speak to Maygirl. I don't remember you ever being a moderator here, which means this is hardly an open topic for discussion. If you have an issue with this, please contact a staff member, and it will be discussed and you'll receive a reply shortly. We just want to ensure that the people hired are the best people possible.

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Re: Mod Application [Two TM positions opened]

Post  Mango Smango on 11/10/2012, 11:40 pm

Ccpenguin8 wrote:
Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

In my opinion, the applications are the best system BY FAR. Not only does it allow members to inform us of their interest in becoming moderators, it allows us, as the staff, to sample their grammar, and consider whether they have the skills we're looking for, based upon the points listed in their application. Yes, the staff often have discussions about candidates, and yes, sometimes candidates are dismissed almost instantly. But that doesn't mean we hold "supreme power". It is important that members have their say about why they would be good mods - you don't get a job in real life without sending in your CV, or going to an interview.

At the end of the day, this system is the easiest, and most efficient system for us, and it gets the job done. That's what matters, and that's why we use it.

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Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

Yeah, the way TCPCF does it is wise. Like I said before, the app is a little extreme...

See above. It's extreme because we need to ensure that candidates have the skills, qualities and "flair" we're looking for. It's no use having a good moderator, that screams at the staff in the MDF.

Although TCPCF staff and TNCPCP staff try to maintain a good, friendly and professional working relationship to collaborate on interforum moderation issues when we occassionally have 'clashes', that doesn't mean we have to mimic them. Wink

Wait, we have to have really good grammar? I did not know that! I never really use my best grammar on here. But, If I was a mod, I would! I don't think I have a good chance of becoming one now Sad. I actually have good grammar, I just don't usually use it online. (Just making sure you knew that because I diddint know that you would be looking at our posts to check) Smile
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Post  Ccpenguin8 on 12/10/2012, 1:01 pm

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Ccpenguin8 wrote:
Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

In my opinion, the applications are the best system BY FAR. Not only does it allow members to inform us of their interest in becoming moderators, it allows us, as the staff, to sample their grammar, and consider whether they have the skills we're looking for, based upon the points listed in their application. Yes, the staff often have discussions about candidates, and yes, sometimes candidates are dismissed almost instantly. But that doesn't mean we hold "supreme power". It is important that members have their say about why they would be good mods - you don't get a job in real life without sending in your CV, or going to an interview.

At the end of the day, this system is the easiest, and most efficient system for us, and it gets the job done. That's what matters, and that's why we use it.

Djmichael1 wrote:
Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

Yeah, the way TCPCF does it is wise. Like I said before, the app is a little extreme...

See above. It's extreme because we need to ensure that candidates have the skills, qualities and "flair" we're looking for. It's no use having a good moderator, that screams at the staff in the MDF.

Although TCPCF staff and TNCPCP staff try to maintain a good, friendly and professional working relationship to collaborate on interforum moderation issues when we occassionally have 'clashes', that doesn't mean we have to mimic them. Wink

Wait, we have to have really good grammar? I did not know that! I never really use my best grammar on here. But, If I was a mod, I would! I don't think I have a good chance of becoming one now Sad. I actually have good grammar, I just don't usually use it online. (Just making sure you knew that because I diddint know that you would be looking at our posts to check) Smile

Yes, we do look for good grammar when hiring potential moderators. Don't worry, though, you do have a chance of becoming one - just be sure to use good grammar from now on, and I'm sure you'll be just fine. Besides, the final decisions haven't been made yet.

Everything is considered with an open mind, and you don't have to be completely perfect to get the job, we're hiring Training Moderators. That means you learn on the job, and we teach you the moderation techniques and methods you should use to become a better staff member.

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Lewleworange wrote:
Medicinal wrote:That's what I really don't get about this system. The members shouldn't apply themselves, especially with preferences. If everyone wants the staff spot, nobody will give them a preference, probably because they are applying too?

I think the fairest (and easiest) system would just be the whole staff discuss the member(s) who they think are the best for the job. It saves the members applying (which actually takes up a bit of time, considering I was going to apply but then realised it took too long and scrapped it) as well as Maygirl reading all the applications, as well as giving everybody a fair shot. Just my opinion.

I'm agreeing. Same thing as well, I was trying to an Application but it's to hard. If the Moderators/Admins really knew us considering we've been on the original forum since 2010/2011. Why should we have to apply when everyone here knows...well, everyone?

Well, as for you, Lewleworange, I believe you were supposed to have been IP banned (which I have just done now). So I doubt you'll be applying any time soon.

On the issue of why we use the system, please see above. It is NOT too hard - if it was, I wouldn't have been able to apply back when I was still a candidate for a staff position. It is an accurate measure of your experience, skills, reputation (preferences), grammar and it generally helps the staff decide. We don't 'know' anyone; there are plenty of members here who behave completely differently than on CPCP.

If you wish to debate the operation of this forum, speak to Maygirl. I don't remember you ever being a moderator here, which means this is hardly an open topic for discussion. If you have an issue with this, please contact a staff member, and it will be discussed and you'll receive a reply shortly. We just want to ensure that the people hired are the best people possible.
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Post  Ccpenguin8 on 4/7/2016, 9:00 pm

Mmm. If you still wanted to be a mod, I guess you could have my job... or not. I resigned two and a half years ago and Maygirl still hasn't removed my mod powers. Razz

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